http://www.voltairenet.org/article164273.html
Srebrenica — Neither Massacre, Nor Genocide
Alexander Dorin
2 March 2010
He added that, contrary to the popular mythology still dominating Western mainstream media, Muslims who lost their lives in Srebrenica were grown men rather than “boys”, and have been gunned down while fighting against the Bosnian Serb Army. Which, as he points out, can in no way be equated with a massacre, let alone “genocide”.
After many years of investigating the war events in and around Srebrenica, I have reached a definite conclusion that there was no genocide. In July 1995, as the town was being taken over by the Serb forces, some 2,000 Muslim men lost their lives — not 8,000 as the Bosnian Muslim propaganda machinery claims, with the backing of certain Western politicians and media. Those 2,000 men fell in a battle against the Serbian Army, while they were breaking through to Tuzla. “Srebrenica genocide” is Izetbegović’s and Clinton’s invention, – Dorin said.
Question: Upon what do you base your claims Srebrenica “massacre” was invented by Izetbegović and Clinton?
Answer: One should keep in mind that even the American media wrote quite a bit about the fact United States was arming Izetbegović’s forces for years. Clinton administration was very antagonistic toward Serbs — Clinton’s generals were even involved in the Croat operation “Storm”, expulsion and elimination of the Serbian nation from the Republic of Serbian Krajina and western parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
At the same time, one of Srebrenica warlords — Hakija Meholjić — continues to assert Clinton was offering Izetbegović a manufactured massacre against Srebrenica Muslims since 1993, as a ploy that will end the civil war in Bosnia-Herzegovina [to the Bosnian Muslim advantage].
Q: What does that tell us?
A: It tells us they had two years to set that ploy up, the time during which Izetbegović and Clinton were being mythologized and raised to the status of heroes throughout the most influential Western media outlets.
“Srebrenica Victims” Voting
Q: Does your book offer additional evidence?
A: The book also presents evidence which shows 2,000 Muslim men who lost their lives in Srebrenica fell during the battles. In order to be able to claim that the “genocide” was committed, and since they didn’t have enough bodies to back the initial claim of 8,000 allegedly killed Muslims, they listed as Srebrenica victims a number of Bosnian Muslim fighters who died long before Srebrenica takeover, or were shot down in other battles during the civil war, from 1992-1995. The list of the alleged Srebrenica victims also contains the names of those who are still alive.
Q: You mean those who were later voting in the elections…?
A: That is correct. In the 1996 Bosnian elections, the electoral lists contained some 3,000 Bosnian Muslims who were also listed as “Srebrenica victims”. This further underlines the fact that so-called Hague Tribunal still has no evidence of “Srebrenica genocide”. Instead, they rely on the claims of Croat Dražen Erdemović, proven to be sheer lies, as Bulgarian reporter Germinal Civikov has demonstrated in his latest book.
Q: The Hague Tribunal does not believe so…?
A: Former NATO spokesman Jamie Shea stressed back in 1999 that, without NATO, there would be no Hague Tribunal to begin with. He asserted that NATO and the Hague Tribunal are “allies and friends”. Among others, the example which confirms his assertion is the case of [Colonel] Vidoje Blagojević, sentenced to a long prison term due to Srebrenica events, even though he is absolutely innocent and has done no harm to anyone. So, NATO is punishing its adversaries via the Hague Tribunal while, at the same time, it protects its allies.
The History of Yugoslav Civil War was Written by the Aggressors
Q: Why have they bore down on Serbs?
A: Serbs have never allied with the aggressive forces. In the past hundreds of years, Serbs were fighting against all the aggressors and the fascist forces. Instead of respect and gratitude, they were rewarded with sanctions and bombs by the international community, and with a thorough and complete demonization by the Western media. Today’s world is ruled by the criminals and psychopaths who call themselves democrats.
Swiss researcher who has been investigating Srebrenica events for the past 14 years and has published several books on the subject, including Srebrenica — The History of Salon Racism (Srebrenica — die Geschichte eines salonfahigen Rassismus) .
see: kosovo: mensonges osce sur les massacresVoltaire Network related articles
http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2009/11/alexander-dorin-discredited-genocide.html
21 November, 2009
ALEXANDER DORIN - GENOCIDE DENIER
...
One of Alexander Dorin's myths is a claim that more than 3,000 Srebrenica victims, from the list of missing, participated in the 1996 municipal Srebrenica elections. He also refers to the figure of "7,000 - 8,000" Srebrenica victims as a "western myth".
FACTS: In fact, none of the Srebrenica genocide victims ever voted in the 1996 elections. In the 1996 elections, which were held shortly after the 1995 genocide, local authorities simply used the list containing the names of all registered pre-war Srebrenica citizens. This does not mean that "dead people voted." According to Helge Brunborg, the Hague Tribunals' expert, at least 7,475 Bosniaks perished in the Srebrenica genocide. Under cross-examination in Blagojevic case, Brunborg (who speaks English as his Second Language) explained that by 1997, there were no missing people registered to vote:
Furthermore, Brunborg explained:"If you would look at Table 1 on page 7 in the 2000 report, you will see that there were 5 -- on the ICRC list and PHR list were 5.712. On the ICRC list only 1.586. That makes 7.298, which is 101 less than the ICRC number that you quoted, 7.399. In addition, we had access to information that the ICRC did not have at that time, I believe, which is the voters' list, 1997 and 1998, which were used to check that missing people were -- that there were no survivors who registered to vote. And we also checked difficult cases where the data were incomplete with the 1991 census.... The only thing is the information from ICRC, that 6 persons were found to be alive. So we subtracted that number." (Court Transcript)
"People who are missing and believed to be dead should not be able to vote. So when we had this complete list of people who were registered to vote in 1997 and 1998, we wanted to make a comparison to see if there were, in fact, people believed to be missing who were registered to vote. So we did a very careful comparison, and we found nine names that we believe are unique and that are appearing on both lists of missing persons and the list of voters. So there is an error somewhere. Either these are not really missing persons, they are survivors, or somebody misused their identities because they knew they were dead, so they misused their identities, perhaps to get extra -- additional political influence, to vote twice. Or third, there is a mix-up due to data problems and so on. But the conclusion is that the number was very small. Nine, that is less than -- that is about one-tenth of a per cent. To be on the safe side, we subtracted these names, although it is not certain that these are survivors.... We asked the ICRC whether they knew about people who had survived, who they later learned to be survivors and not dead on the list of missing persons since January 1997. And they told us there were six persons out of 7.000, but they would not reveal their identities to us. So to be on the safe side, we subtracted another six persons from the total number. We could not delete those from the list that was also submitted to the court, because we didn't know their identities. In this way we ended up with 7,475." (Court Transcript)
Asked "how reliable do you think this number of 7.475 missing persons is it?", Helge Brunborg responded: "We think that the number is very reliable as a minimum estimate... the number could easily be higher because there were records that we excluded to be on the safe side."
As of July 2009, the DNA results of the International Commission on Missing Persons (ICMP) support an estimate of 8,100 Srebrenica genocide victims. So far, the identities of 6,186 genocide victims have been revealed by the DNA analysis. (Source: ICMP)
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=12535&title=exposed--how-kosovo-serbs-were-butchered-for-organs
Exposed: how Kosovo Serbs were butchered for organs
video from RT TV
http://www.voltairenet.org/article164350.html
Bernard Kouchner dément les accusations de Carla del Ponte
5 mars 2010
En visite officielle au Kosovo, le ministre français des Affaires étrangères, Bernard Kouchner, a été interrogé le 1er mars par un journaliste à propos des rumeurs selon lesquelles il serait impliqué dans le scandale des trafics d’organe.
Plusieurs médias serbes ont accusé M. Kouchner d’avoir couvert ces agissements lorsqu’il était Haut représentant des Nations Unies dans la région (1999-2001).
« L’affaire de la Maison jaune », par référence à la couleur de la clinique clandestine où des organes étaient prélevés sur plus de 300 prisonniers civils serbes avant qu’ils ne soient exécutés, a été attestée par l’ancienne procureur du Tribunal pénal international Carla del Ponte dans son livre La caccia. Io e i criminali di guerra [Version française : La Traque, les criminels de guerre et moi (éd. Héloïse d’Ormesson, 2009)]. Quatre ans après les faits, les enquêteurs de Mme Del Ponte ont localisé la Maison jaune à Burrell (Albanie), mais n’ont pu y trouver d’indices permettant de reconstituer la filière.
Sur proposition de la délégation russe, l’Assemblée parlementaire du Conseil de l’Europe a mandaté le sénateur suisse Dick Marty pour ouvrir une nouvelle enquête.
En répondant à la presse, Bernard Kouchner ne manifeste aucune compassion pour les victimes et leurs familles. Fort étrangement il choisit de démentir la complicité passive qu’on lui impute en niant l’existence du crime. En outre, il qualifie de « salauds et d’assassins » ceux qui colportent cette rumeur ; des propos qui incluent Carla Del Ponte.
http://www.serbianna.com/blogs/newspost/?p=1412
Testimony made on Albanian organ trade
Jan 30, 2009
Former Albanian fighter with the terrorist group, the Kosovo Liberation Army or the KLA, says that the organs of kidnapped Serbs were pulled out not only in Albania but also in the sea, in northern Italy, north Africa and Middle East.
The witness referred to as I.T. testified that he personally transferred a group of kidnapped Serbs to Tirana and Drac, in Albania, so their organs could be taken out.
Once there, the witness says, “general” human traders loaded them in the ships that sailed into the international waters in the Adriatic.
Once in the international water, doctors, mostly from the western countries, “took them apart” as the KLA members refer to such operations.
The Albanian witness says that he was responsible for numerous kidnappings of Serbs for purposes of taking them apart.
The witness said that in 1999 he led two trucks that drove from Kosovo, via Pastrk, to Tropoje and Peskopi in Albania.
One truck was loaded with corpses of murdered Serb civilians and the other contained live Serbs that were suppose to be taken apart.
The witness says that his commanders for such operations were Daut Haradinaj, Sami Ljusaku and Jakup Krasniqi.
Daut is a relative of the KLA commanded Ramush Haradinaj who was once a so-called prime minister of Kosovo.
Jakup Krasniqi is a leader in the current Kosovo separatist government.
Another Albanian witness, who was held in concentration camp in Lapusik, says that Krasniqi and Hashim Thaci, current so-called prime minister of Kosovo, personally took part in torture of the prisoners.
The witness says that he saw them kill the prisoners there.
The witness says that the KLA was aided by Jihadis from the Middle East.
Some other KLA members involved in removal of corpses say that several Serbian solders were, after torture, taken apart in Kukes and their remains buried in the city cemetery.
They say that other captured Serb soldiers ended up in the hospitals in Valona until a buyer of an organ made an order.
The evidence suggests that an Albanian organ trade started in 1998 when Serbs from Balacevac were kidnapped.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/143002.html
Israeli-linked organ dealers busted
Sep 18, 2010
South Africa's biggest healthcare company Netcare has been implicated in an illegal kidney transplant plot.
The police said that wealthy Israelis paid organ dealers between 2001 and 2003, the year when the ring was exposed, the German Press Agency (DPA) reported.
"Israeli citizens in need of kidney transplants would be brought to South Africa for transplants at St. Augustine's Hospital," read the charge sheet.
"They paid kidney suppliers for these operations. [The kidneys] were initially sourced from Israeli citizens, but later Romanian and Brazilian citizens were recruited as their kidneys were obtainable at a much lower cost than those of the Israeli suppliers," it added.
An Israeli middleman, named Ilan Perry, received between USD 97,676 and USD 118,607 to arrange for the operations.
This is while, those who provided the kidneys were paid approximately between USD 6,000 and USD 20,000.
Five notable South African physicians, working in Durban have also been charged in the illegal organ-trafficking case.
The report also said that Netcare is being charged with setting up the syndicate with the assistance of prominent kidney specialist Jeffrey Kallmeyer and Perry.
The report comes as earlier last year, another report surfaced about an Israeli plot to kidnap children and harvest their organs.
According to the report, some 25,000 Ukrainian children had been brought into Israel over the past two years to be used by Israeli medical centers for their "spare parts."
The Israeli military is also accused of stealing the organs of Palestinian prisoners.
HN/CS/MMN
Posts
![[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]](http://www.kitconet.com/charts/metals/gold/t24_au_en_eukg_2.gif)
New book about de massmurder against the Serbs in and around Srebrenica:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ahriman.com/en/srebrenica.htm